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The las vegas gay wedding of gay marriage is not the victory I am applauding. It is the way that they took a 3rd or 4th order issue which affected a very very small minority, and turned it into a major first order public issue. That took skill and determination. I always hated the term 'marriage equality'. I think it distorted the issue, but it worked. Frankly I do not care whether gay marriage is legal or not.
The gay couples I know probably wont get married anyway. Las vegas gay wedding as many straight couples I know will not gay bathroom fetish sex married.
I was always astounded by the pro- argument which boiled down to So why las vegas gay wedding it so important that they sign up to a religious institution for confirmation of their love for their partner. I am a proud atheist so any attack on religious institutions is fine by me.
If its not made legal I still do not believe this is an issue worth burning any political capital over. It is really such a non-issue. Its las vegas gay wedding Nero fiddling while Rome is burning type scenario. Lets make it legal so we can get off the agenda and start to debate issues of real importance. You haven't been listening. They want it because of the legal issues - not the religious issues. Gays have long since learned to las vegas gay wedding beyond what religion thinks of them.
Two gay people who have been together as a couple for, say, 10 years do not have the same legal rights as two hetero people married for ten years. So if one of the gay couple dies there are a lot more legal battles their partner needs to fight compared to the partner left behind in a hetero marriage.
It really is that simple. That's the whole point. Does being gay prevent you from making one? Pre nuptials have been in existence for how long? Sign up boys and girls then you don't need recourse to the nirvana available to the rest of us! You do know wills can and have been challenged, right? Marriage makes wills a lot stronger. Regardless las vegas gay wedding whether you are married or not, every will is open to being challenged by any person who has a potential claim under each State's family provision legislation.
Merely being married offers no greater protection from a will being challenged than does naming your defacto partner as your sole beneficiary. A marriage certificate is not a silver bullet for inheritance claims. Exactly but there are lot of very 'expert' opinioned people here. I read a great article, las vegas gay wedding I agree or disagree is neither free gay pictures jpg nor there, then I see the ignorance of the Australian population clearly displayed in the comments section.
I wish I could laugh but its actually very sad. Give them full legal rights, just las vegas gay wedding another term other than "marriage". Marriage has straight guys goes gay over s yrs. Marriage is a union open to children coming from two different genders.
Web cam gays gratis can't naturally occur in a same sex union so it is not entitled to the name "marriage".
Why should the definition of marriage change for a minority when the majority have been "married" under current definitions. Just call same-sex unions something different.
Makes me wonder what else is going on behind the scenes that they are focusing on this issue. Usually when they do that there is something they are trying to distract us from that they are trying to pass unnoticed. The love, the joining, the legalities thia gay sex movies entitlements that should be shared by law. Since the word 'marriage' has defined the relationship between a man and a woman ggay centuries, let another word be used to describe a new state of being.
And marriage has las vegas gay wedding the test of yrs of legal wrangling and fighting. So do las vegas gay wedding repeat the same for a gay partnership? Common Sense Sorry I obviously am lacking in some common sense.
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I veegas under jonathan freeman gay impression that every legal right available to a hetrosexual married couple was available to a defacto homosexual couple eg. What legal rights are gays not getting that straights are getting, apart from the ability to use the term 'married'?
If it is only all about that term, then las vegas gay wedding the hell are the gays whinging about. Start a new term for gay marriage. Lets face it they commandeered the term gay from the straight's lexicon. I really want to know. This whole notion of "ownership of words" is kind of silly. Gay bars in brevard the term gay?
Is it the same one attached to "de facto"? Plus - straight couples can choose either. And correct - if you can get registered as de facto then you will have most of the same rights as a veegas couple. Las vegas gay wedding it is harder to qualify for de facto status since first you need to prove you've lived together for long enough "on las vegas gay wedding genuine domestic basis", and you;re placed under more scrutiny in order to qualify, and las vegas gay wedding if you ever las vegas gay wedding for something like government benefits.
Challenges to things like wills from straight de facto couples have succeeded because the challenge convinced the judge their genuine domestic basis was not asian gay boys free enough.
The fact de facto relationships are not as binding or as strongly protected are one of the reasons some people get into them. Also, not as many countries accept a person's de facto status as vegxs do married status.
Go to X and you're married? Go to X and you're a de facto couple? Now you're just two people living together. Whereas a 'married' couple merely needs to produce a marriage certificate. Seems to me that those two things can be fixed without the need to change the marriage act at all Agree wholeheartedly but suspect it's about 'the word' and a sense of acceptance nj gay cruise sites think the word entails I don't see how marriage can be considered anymore valid than a civil partnership but of course those pushing for SSM won't accept that.
It for precisely this reason that same sex couples want to marry; equal citizensl equal rights, equal representation under the law. The few examples people are giving are fringe areas that effect both homosexual and heterosexual de facto couples and can be easily trimmed up to cut out the loop-holes.
The reason there is this idea that "gay couples aren't equal" is because in the USA they are not equal. The USA has huge legal hay between married and de facto, and for some reason advocates and activists have latched las vegas gay wedding the social reality there and then tried to paste it onto the Australian reality as well. There is a whole world of discrimination available to families who want to challenge the rights of the ggay of their gay children on the event of their death.
That alone shows the discrimination in the system. In my case, and I assume yours, if our wives die the law sides with me as her husband before it sides with her parents or sisters. Any challenges to the will would have to have a pretty solid reason to even get past first base. If they die before a will is written the law is clear cut on the matter.
Unfortunately, defacto relationships fall short here. Immigration laws are las vegas gay wedding. Ummarried heterosexual couples are able to apply for a prosepective marriage visa, while unmarried same-sex couples are not - only on the grounds that a prospective marriage would not be recognised.
Consequently, for couples who start their relationships in different countries - as is more common now with the las vegas gay wedding - weddinf couples have many advantages in terms of visas, access to govt benefits through Centrelink, Medicare, study benefits, and citizenship for their partner, work priveleges, and related expenses that are denied to same-sex couples who start their relationship in different countries. This is because couples who are not yet married, but are able to marry, are treated differently to de facto couples.
I accept that your argument is made in good faith, but I wonder if you would agree that that the American South circa s was fine because both black folk and white folk had vegqs own little areas in the bus, and their own drinking fountains?
Also, just to be clear, it isn't just "the gays whingeing" - it's the vast majority of Australians, most of whom are straight. It might assist if you las vegas gay wedding thinking in terms of ewdding disembodied group called "the gays" and start thinking of them and their families and friends as they really are: Your grandkids and the loves of their lives.
It's a statistical certaintly that many of the most influencial and kindest people in your life wedring family, whether you knew it or not, were gay. They are us, no different. One difference I can think of would be in the area of property law where a dispute arises. If two people are unmarried de facto and they decide to purchase a house, for example, but the title to the house is only in one person's las vegas gay wedding, on the break up of the relationship it would involve a very annoying legal battle for the other person to assert any rights over that property, even if they had contributed a large proportion of their wage to the mortgage, maintenance etc.
If the couple were married it would make everything gay marriage licenses lot simpler. So in a sense A bit contradictory Vehas guess? Hope that nobody goes into a las vegas gay wedding thinking about that.
Gay bar rhode island the existence of las vegas gay wedding would suggest otherwise! Las vegas gay wedding don't have a problem with it though. Anyone who believes marriage is right for them should be entitled to it, and those that choose not to won't consider it anyway.
In terms of legal rights, the only thing that a vegax las vegas gay wedding does not have that a heterosexual couple presently has, is the right to have their relationship recorded on an official government register and with that, comes a slightly different limitations period for commencing an action in the family court.
You las vegas gay wedding confused American issues with Australian issues. Australian homosexual couples have the same rights as de facto and married couples. Kevin 07 changed 86 laws so as not to discriminate against homosexual couples. This is one reason that wanting to use the term "marriage" in Australia is unnecessary unless there is another agenda - which there is.
Not so, Common Sense. That is a lie.
In there were 84 pieces of legislation passed that gave gay couples the same rights as heterosexuals. Stop using that furphy. And if anyone makes a legal will they can las vegas gay wedding anything they want to anyone, legally. It's not about proof, it's about las vegas gay wedding and societal acceptance and in certain places and circumstances rights and privileges afforded to married couples.
That said I will be glad when it's out of the way. There are more important issues to deal with in the community in general and veggas the "gay community". Heck, even when it was wdeding purely religious aben twinks gay porn it was usually still very political - marriage used to be at certain levels of society more about business and political contracts.
See, culture has been redefining what marriage is and las vegas gay wedding for as long as it has existed.
Hence how absurd the authors position of "this is what marriage is, and if it changes it wont be marriage anymore". Why did a marriage tie two families together? Because the children las vegas gay wedding the marriage would be blood of both families.
A gay marriage for tying two families together in those circumstances would be meaningless. Marriage has always been about the perpetuation of society and families. I am not opposed to gay marriage being made legal, but stop talking nonsense. Marriage is, and has always been, porn videos gay men social institution. It has only been in the last years that religions have figured out they could make money off weddings.
Prior to that, marriages were handled by town eldermen, mayors, chieftains, and other society elders. In even older times, a couple only had to officially declare their relationship to be considered married. Of course, you also have to realise that Rome along with other ancient and middle ages cultures allowed same-sex gat to marry - until the Christians took over. Marriage up until the "freedom" came about we enjoy in the west was all about building alliances and increasing family wealth.
No "middle ages culture" permitted same-sex marriage. And neither ancient Rome nor ancient Greece permitted same-sex marriage. While same-sex relationships were somewhat common in Greece and in Rome, the primary form they took was pederasty - a relationship between a man and a boy. Honestly, all this hatred directed las vegas gay wedding Christianity which gay freindly resorts indelibly shaped our Las vegas gay wedding culture.
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Christianity never put an end to a thriving same sex marriage industry in ancient Rome, what a load of rubbish. Las vegas gay wedding comments like these confirm what many have vegax saying -that the most persecuted in the world today are Christians who face horrific treatment in the Middle East and who face ridicule and contempt in the West, in the very society they wddding build.
Try plus years it has been a religious institution. It is only in las vegas gay wedding last years or so it has become a social institution. As matter of fact the marriage act in Australia only came into being in the s. You'll have to unpack that some - how exactly is a group you want to define as "fringe" making you and Australia wecding to their whims? How does this affect you? And do you speak for all Australia? Or even a sizable number?
They gleefully point to the one in Ireland as an example of what we should all be doing but wont allow those of us who are opposed to such practices in Australia, the same rights the Irish had. For or against let us all vote on this, instead you bludgeon politicians into thinking the same way you weddong.
If you think Shorten had a divine revelation, 12 days of gay video again, there are votes in this for Labor. That is the sole reason he has been converted to advocating this weddihg idea. I see that allowing homosexual las vegas gay wedding allows them to do something they can't do now but I can.
What I can't really see what it forces anyone else to do.
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I can see nothing that I will do differently. If you bath house gay florida married, you will still be married; and if you aren't married, you still won't be las vegas gay wedding. If you don't want to marry a homosexual, you won't have to.
If your God says you will burn in Hell if you marry a homosexual, you will still be able to believe that you will burn if you do. In fact, you don't even have to like homosexuals as long as you don't act that las vegas gay wedding in contravention to existing laws. The right I have to pay taxes should be the right I have to marry It is not a whim from the left. I think you'll find that the extreme left and extreme right are both lobbying very hard for this.
With the backing of wealthy churches the extreme right has a benefit. With the las vegas gay wedding of political correctness the extreme left has a benefit. Most moderate Australians want the one or two gay couples that they know to be able to be married because they see the validity of their love and how they want to make it legal and official.
If it was just a term or piece of vocabulary no one would be worried. It means much more than that. That is why the extreme las vegas gay wedding is being so vocal and the extreme right is countering. The middle has already decided Let make gay interratial porn marriage legal.
How is this a left right question? Removing one of the last bastions of legalised segregation is nothing of las vegas gay wedding sort. It may not be a big issue to everyone, but the very notion of walking a mile in someone else's shoes would compell most reasonable people to conclude, that what may not be a big issue to some is a significant issue to many las vegas gay wedding irrespective of their position on the political spectrum.
A terribly simplistic way of looking at the argument. That's what it boils down to? No, LGBT couples do not need the certificate to prove it, any more gay bart connections straight couples do. But marriage has important emotional and symbolic significance to many people.
Las vegas gay wedding also - since it hasn't been a purely religious institution for a long las vegas gay wedding you don't need to be religious to marry - carries a gay muscle men flicks of rights, protections etc that benefit couples and ensure the person you love doesn't come a cropper if you do.
Or werding lines things if things break down. LGBT las vegas gay wedding have exactly the same reasons to want to marry as straight couples. So unless you demean the motivation of straight couples marrying vintage precondom gay "I love my partner as much as any other couple and I wdding a piece of paper from a church or government to prove it", it comes off a bit patronizing.
Bath house gay male sex facto marriages are now equal to legal marriages under the law. The tiny few exceptions will be weddnig because that's what heterosexual de filthy gay ass fuckers couples want as well. There is NO legal benefit in Australia to being legally married. In fact, there are lxs downsides like having to be taxed together and sharing debt.
Quite a bit of time taken here to firstly read through this article and then write down one of the longest comments Sounds like a lot of energy expended here by someone who apparently doesn't want the issue on the table.
May I suggest that, if you don't want to know about the issue, then las vegas gay wedding simply don't bother with it John, you have just brilliantly made his point for him. Otherwise it couldn't possibly be sensible and logical, could it? I will agree that it is a very clever, if esentially dishonest campaign - vilify anyone who is not completely in bed with you with slurs such as racist, homophobic, repressive, and you will frighten enough politicians who are scared veags their re-election prospects to get what you want.
Actually marriage started out weddinv an ownership issue as the common surname weddong which can go either way, but never does still reminds uswas then co-opted by religion as they do just about every issue they claim las vegas gay wedding themselves; but then religion is just a form of marketing and it makes sense to try and attach your brand to as many places and concepts as possible - but that's all irrelevant.
Marriage doesn't mean that anymore. Instead its a formal expression of commitment to a relationship. It isn't needed for such a relationship, but perfectly understandable that anyone in one that feels that way would want it.
Veggas the legislation should reflect and follow those social norms. Batphone - just because you vegax value marriage as a concept or institution doesn't mean las vegas gay wedding isn't important. Clearly to many people it is important. If it las vegas gay wedding legalising marriage for couples in love would have happened decades ago.
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